Contest!   |   Log in   |   Sign Up   |   Take a Tour


Open a Case
 
Open case
Open a Case
Member Login
Banner
Related

Closed Case
Ultimate Fighting is an Ultimate Disaster
Dagman
VS
TheWrangler
TheWrangler: Ultimate Fighting is as real a sport as any other

Case Closed on
August 10, 2007 14:51
Closed Case
Lucky Charms vs. Cookie Crisp
Dagman

VS
Exitheuxa Exitheuxa: CaooOOOkie Crisp for me please!

Case Closed on
August 21, 2007 11:17
Closed Case
Should you ever make an abrupt stop in the middle of rush hour?
Dagman
VS
Grneyes Dagman: I say if someone breaks rank while walking down a Manhattan street in the middle or rush hour she/he deserves to get yelled at and possibly trampled.

Case Closed on
October 26, 2007 05:37
Closed Case
Barry Bonds and the hr* title
Epicurus

VS
Dagman Dagman: Why barry bonds deserves credit for the title...

Case Closed on
August 09, 2007 02:43
Closed Case
Nannette or Chase
WhatsNewPussyCat
VS
Dagman
WhatsNewPussyCat: Who can win in a match Nannette or Chase Dag

Case Closed on
February 03, 2008 07:31
Judgment
   
The Wall

Halloween Costumes
CSAustinTexas
VS
Tbsaustin Tbsaustin: Here's the thing, I have no problem with people dressing up as other nationalities, ethnicities, etc. Masks and bronzer are different than blackface.

Time remaining
3 days 20 hours 29 min.
Girl naturally in shape or girl that works out all the time
MudBugs
VS
Djgump35 MudBugs: Between two 20 year old girls whose bodies look exactly the same, one who never works out and other who always does, take the one who works out.

Time remaining
8 days 29 min.
You can't be a citizen of a continent.
Rachle12
VS
Djgump35 Djgump35: It just doesn't make sense that this point would be argued, as the counterpoint would have no foundation,so why would you post this?

Time remaining
8 days 50 min.
Answers search engines vs general search engines
Denismtl
    Denismtl: There are 2 common types of search engines: General - http://google.com; Answers - http://joeblowanswers.com . Answers engines are better.

Time remaining
12 days 2 hours 44 min.
SHOULD ERRORS BE TRACKED AND CONSIDERED A STAT IN MLB?
Zhluv1000`s Argument
Zhluv1000
Send a message    Add to My Friends    Open a case against zhluv1000
Errors are vital because of the fact that they are inextricably linked to a variety of other statistics within the game. Thus, removing errors would have a 'domino' effect on the credibility of those other stats.
For example, the concept of ERA (earned-run average) takes into consideration the differentiation between an EARNED run and an UNEARNED run. Thus, the public perception of the statistic would be rendered forever altered if errors were removed from the game's record books. A pitcher who plays behind a particularly porous or poor fielding/throwing team should not be unjustly penalized.
Though an error is just part of the equation for measuring defensive competence, it is a necessary aspect. If one were to remove errors, it would make the concept of defensive analysis MORE unclear. Though errors should be just part of the equation in determining defensive abilities, along with such tools as range factor, ultimate zone rating and other defensive metrics, they are a vital part of that equation.
Errors, though not without their inherent flaws, are nonetheless an indicator of a degree of defensive ability - and that would be lost if the stat was eliminated.


Dagman`s Argument
Dagman

Send a message    Add to My Friends    Open a case against Dagman
We are talking about professional athletes. These are people who live sleep and eat baseball and have done so since the day they were born. An infielder has probably taken millions of ground balls in his lifetime. An outfielder millions of fly balls. If they can not come up with the play then obviously something went wrong, maybe a bad bounce, a glaring sun.

Plus how can we take a hit away from a batter (and an earned run away from a pitcher) while not at the same time giving a hit to hitter (and an earned run to a pitcher) when someone makes a ridiculous play. I am talking about A-rod laying out to snag a ball down the third base line and then throwing a close line to beat the runner by half a step. These are plays that 99% of the time will not get made. If we are taking away a hit for a play that will get made 99% why wouldn't we also give a hit to the person who unfortunately was thrown out on a play that any other time would have landed him on first base? It just doesn't make sense.

If there were no errors in baseball then the miraculous plays would cancel out the bonehead plays and honest and fair ERA and batting average statistics would result.

Also lets not forget that determining whether an error has occurred is completely subjective. This completely undermines the validity of the statistic. One person would declare an error where another would find none.

Furthermore the better players in the league are penalized by the error statistic. Good players have broader range and are able to get to more balls then sucky players. Therefore they are going to be around the ball more and get more leather on the glove in hard to make plays. By reaching the ball (as opposed to your average Joe who wouldn't even make an attempt at the ball) a great baseball player will be given more errors for his extraordinary efforts.

No other sport has such a stupid statistic. Imagine taking a touchdown away if the corner back fell on the play. Ha.

Case Information
Views: 488

Rating 4.00 (1 total):
64% of People thought Dagman was Wrong (11 total votes)
Category Sports
Case was closed on February 12, 2008 18:38
Tags: errors, sports, stats
URL:  Copy to Clipboard

Save to Favorites Save to Favorites    Flag as Inappropriate Flag as Inappropriate    Send to Friend Send to Friend

Did you enjoy this case? Please bookmark it onto:
Digg! Reddit! Del.icio.us! Spurl! Wists! Simpy! Newsvine! Blinklist! Furl! Fark! Blogmarks! Yahoo! Smarking!
Socialmarker
 COMMENTS AND RESPONSES
dontgothere23   316 days 14 hours 26 min. ago
i think the dagmans not drinking the error "koolade"...

but evidently smoking "that crack"....

Would you like to comment?
Join Us for a free account, or Login if you are already a member.